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Does new FM include other extension updates?

Thread began 11/01/2010 3:07 pm by tom113673 | Last modified 11/04/2010 3:55 pm by tom113673 | 1793 views | 5 replies |

tom113673

Does new FM include other extension updates?

['FM' in the title should read 'FB' - sorry about that.]

Given that creating a simple form still generates about 1000 lines of CSS code, I don't think I shall use the new Form Builder (I have version 1 and have never used it since trying it out). However I do find some of the extensions which the new version replaces useful. I have a few questions:

Have the extensions (UE etc.) in the new version of FB been updated? If so, are there details of improvements/bugfixes etc.?
It's been mentioned that a later update of FB might include the option to exclude CSS generation. Is this something that's likely to be included soon?

I can see that bundling things together to create a one-click solution to a series of tasks is appealing in some respects and doubtless sells well. However the result is inevitably inflexible and cumbersome in some respects (eg producing huge amounts of redundant code). For some users I'm sure it would be preferable to have much finer control and to continue to use extensions for quite specific tasks. Eg while FB can create a complex form including a Captcha, it can't simply apply a Captcha to a form which already exists (without creating dummy files and cutting and pasting etc.). I would find it useful if it did this; as it is, it's not useful. I hope this point of view will be considered as you continue to develop your products.

Thanks,
Tom Dupre

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Dani Chankhour

Thanks for your input. We Will definitely take your input into consideration and i definitely can see where simply adding just Captcha to your form should not produce as much code as it is produced. But the reasoning why the extra html and css is generated is to account for other complex cases, where the form could be a two column form or different labels and validation is added to form fields.

In regard to your question to Universal Email, the Version that is in Form Builder V2 is the same as Universal Email Version 4 with a slight modification to work with Form Builder.

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YellowCircleWeb

Hey Tom,

I totally agree with you on the issue of the amount of code FB produces. I really hope WebAssist address this in the next release, if they do then FB could be one of the best products they have, as it is it's just too cumbersome at the moment.

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tom113673

Thanks for getting back to me Dani.

I'm wondering if there is any point for me to upgrade to the new FB. As I probably won't use FB itself, perhaps there isn't. However if there were improvements to any of the extensions (presumably not) or if a new release with more CSS control were fairly imminent, it might be worth taking advantage of the current offer.

I would be grateful for your advice.

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Dani Chankhour

If there was any bug fixing in the extensions that are included in Form Builder, then we would have fixed those bugs in the individual extensions as well.

It seems to be that you would not benefit as much from Upgrading to the new Form Builder, as there is no feature for controlling how much CSS is placed on the page.

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tom113673

>as there is no feature for controlling how much CSS is placed on the page. <

I realise this. I just wondered if an update with such a feature were only a few weeks away - in which case it might be worth upgrading. I assume it's not.

Thanks,
Tom

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