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Framework Themes, Dynamic themes and Plug-ins

Thread began 8/15/2010 4:09 pm by neilo | Last modified 8/16/2010 6:08 am by neilo | 683 views | 3 replies |


Framework Themes, Dynamic themes and Plug-ins

1. Am I right in understanding the difference between 'standard' and 'Framework Theme' templates:

• Old (standard DWT) template: Once updated and saved, and changes ripple through pages based on that template, all changed pages need to be (re)uploaded to remote server (i.e. normal procedure).

• New (WA Theme) template: Once updated, only that (WA Theme) template needs to be uploaded to remote server (along with any newly included related files)?
2. Am I right in understanding that 'Plug-ins' = 'includes'?

Right from the off, the use of the word 'plug-ins' has given me brain-haemerrhoids in my effort to comprehend any instruction on the workings of the framework. Had the word consistently been 'includes, I would (I believe) have got my noodle round the concept a lot more quickly.

I read (or at least started to read) the official guide, but ended up re-reading the same paragraphs over and over, but was constantly in the dark. Either I was too dim or the GSG bulb was broken. I am at the (st)age where no matter how much I think about and try to get to grips with new ideas, the bulk of thinking tends not to save on exit: having to translate at the same time is definitely a step too far.

3. Visual Aids

I need them. Had it not been for Russell's work on the explanatory Pdf I would be in a very large huff and feeling horribly left out of the buzz. I would love it if Russel could be part of the process on future guides, - some people (me) learn things so much more easily with visual instruction.

4. This doesn't appear to be a 'framework' or 'framework builder' as such. The framework (as I understand it) will contain other components (as advertised), e.g. a data-grid. When these arrive, will there be dot-release upgrades to existing framework builder, and will these 'slot in' to an actual framework?

5. Thanks Russell, - good job. You got WebAssist a sale (imminent).

Cheers all.

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Ray BorduinWebAssist

1) Yes... but since the template is now loaded dynamically you can also then have many templates for a given page, which would allow for dynamic skinning.

2) It plug-ins are similar to ADDT MX Includes, but have a lot of advantages over standard includes. Plugins loads the plugged in page into an object, so that the head, body, or editable regions in the plugin page can than be placed individually where you need them. It updates file paths, and works with relative server paths so that the pages can be easily maintained with dreamweaver server behaviors. It is definitely a lot more than simply includes.

3) We appreciate the feedback

4) A framework would inlcude components... a framework builder allows you to build a framework and build your own components. We could potentially build modules as plugins and themes that would work with this framework builder concepts to create a full framework.

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Russell CollinsBeta Tester

Hi Neilo,

Thanks for the compliments.
Like you, I find visuals the best first step in getting concepts.

Did you see my second expanded version, It's here showthread.php?t=15279


When ever you find yourself re-reading a paragraph it's due to a misunderstood or mis defined word. Carefully go through before you became confused to discover that word. Define it with a dictionary, use that word 3 times in different sentenced then re-read what your studying. You'll be amazed at the difference!!


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Cheers Russell,

Yes - the expanded version was the one I meant to link to! That was what allowed (almost) everything to fall in to place for me. Will also try to reintroduce my brain to the notion of flexibility, and will follow your guidelines when I get brain-seize again. I may have to introduce a cerebral .htaccess to rewrite 'include' as 'super-include' or 'plug-in'. (My RewriteEngine is increasingly off by default).

Thanks Ray, having read the expanded pdf, I bought the extension. I had already largely understood from Russell's pdf the benefits, but the possibilities (using the various triggers in various template scenarios) are still dawning on me, the whole now appearing to be considerably larger than the sum of its parts, and my imagination now running a little wild.

Can't emphasise enough the benefits of visual detailing to people such as I.


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