Thanks for the help. I moved the div like you suggested and now the verNavigation menu is not where it should be. I tried changing the settings but it just made the whole page worse. I'm confused. Also, the template created from Site Sculptor put the topNavigation (renamed verNavigation) before leftcolumn1. I just left it there. I think something else is going on that I'm not understanding. Did you try your suggestion on my actual template that I uploaded? Did it work for you under IE6/7 and FF?