Well I know I sounded harse, and I'm sorry Ray. I respect you for the help you give people in making things happen. I don't think there's any reason for you to be ashamed, I think Adobe, the quote, unquote, leader in software should be ashamed. They make good money for their software and should be on these Bugs. Starting to think they are as bad as microsoft. When something like this happens it should be announced to the users on how to correct.