Thanks Ray, I really hated for you to have to respond on a Sunday, but thanks again! I have two more hurdles and I think I might be on my way without having to "bug" you so often. The learning curve for me is big unfortunately from using DW CS4 and the DW Toolkit, but I am very slowly getting there with your assistance. I sure do miss the server-side include features, doesn't seem that DW CC supports this anymore.