I can post the includes (carts)
the main page is rather complex and long
In theory - should I be able to have a summary and full cart display on the same page?
EDIT: I think I've got it - the add to cart process isn't being included in the summary - so it not taking place until the later full cart include runs
Sorry to waste time
now just have to figure how to get over that one - first thought - simple move the add to cart code to the earlier include