The values are present as I echo them in a latter place on the page. Also, I've done multiple means to introduce the value needed, $_GET, $_SESSION, $var and even a direct value put in the Insert routine.
I agree don't waste any debug time on this as I have already spent a considerable amount of time and now have a working solution. It's just that in the back of my mind I have the same coding logic working on a different site and now have this mystery why one site is different from the other.
Thank for offering Ray,