yea, im wondering would it be easier to try and hunt down some php/javascripts software that does this. Because I'm beginning to think it may be too much work and maybe even more work to debug, and probably even more work to try and deter/secure from cheating this point system... because more so than just x points for logging in or thread creations and replies, I think client wants to reward points for video uploads, image uploads, etc. by logged in members.