Shall try that when I'm home tonight. Silly question though..I was just overlooking the code last night and on the checkout page from from zip file I attached last night. In the ecart shipping rules I refer tothe session "Delivery" but on the checkout page I haven't created any sessions named 'Delivery' I only created sessions that are the values of the forms. The code for my form on the checkout page does have the name 'Delivery" so my silly question how does ecart shipping rules think that 'Delivery' is a session when I haven't created this session name? Am I going blind or just stupid ;)