hmm, but I want the present value, before update, to determine which form to show.
Actually, that part works perfectly. If I remove the conditional statements and just load one page or the other, it increments the visitcount properly and it forwards the visitor.
I actually had it like that initially and on the next page I had the if / then showing the appropriate form in an <iframe> but that approach is not ideal.
So here is what I am trying to do.
check how many visits have been made to date
Select appropriate redirect URL
Process Record Update, incrementing visitcount by 1, (for next visit)
Process redirect URL