I hope you get a HUGE Christmas bonus! You deserve it.
thanks again, that worked perfectly.
I had never validated on a different page than the page with the form.
I don't use the form action much(usually have UE or insert do the redirect), but found that in order to get the form POST info on the checkout page, it had to have the form action take it to that page.
Anyway, I may end up having to use eCart on this domain as i can't get PayPal ecommerce to do exactly what i want.