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Thread began 7/15/2010 6:09 am by sunsabbath76401977 | Last modified 7/18/2010 7:53 pm by sunsabbath76401977 | 1036 views | 5 replies |

sunsabbath76401977Beta Tester

HTML Frames

Hi
I'm not really all that enamored with CSS, visually.
I look at Apples website and see framesets.
I know how to use framesets and wondered, "what Dreamweaver / Webassist Plug-ins could I use with framesets"? Please help me answer this question and perhaps provide a link to a associated learning resource.
Thanks for reading
Sabby76

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Justin Nemeth

Can you provide a link the page on apple you are talking about? That will give us a better idea of what you are trying to accomplish.

In general, it's going to be easier to use CSS positioning and not framesets. With frames, you have to worry about sending the data and link targets back and forth to each other.

Framesets are just pages, so any of the techniques in DW and in our extensions will still be valid.

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sunsabbath76401977Beta Tester

www.apple.com
I've never used CSS before and to be honest viewing a CSS page in DW is un-inspiring.
Looking at examples of CSS on the web, I feel as graphic representations disappoint, in that icons move around making me feel a bit sick adding possible negative connotations. With framesets I can design buttons, add video, design flash banners or even add key command 3D engine object movies enabling the user to pre-visualise the product. As a pre-requisite I need to see the end product before investing time and effort and because of a need to self manage I choose framesets. Unless I can simulate the framesets registration design, like fixed top or fixed left and add flash buttons with movies is it possible?
Sabby76

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Justin Nemeth

I don't see any framesets used on apple.com, so I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to. I think you made a good point though, with CSS you could utilize fixed positioning to simulate what a frame could give you.

I would strongly recommend taking the time to learn CSS since it just offers so much flexibility. DW should render proper CSS just fine, you might need to turn off some the helper icons (i.e. hidden elements, div names, etc)

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David StringerBeta Tester

Originally Said By: sunsabbath76401977
  www.apple.com
I've never used CSS before and to be honest viewing a CSS page in DW is un-inspiring.
Looking at examples of CSS on the web, I feel as graphic representations disappoint, in that icons move around making me feel a bit sick adding possible negative connotations. With framesets I can design buttons, add video, design flash banners or even add key command 3D engine object movies enabling the user to pre-visualise the product. As a pre-requisite I need to see the end product before investing time and effort and because of a need to self manage I choose framesets. Unless I can simulate the framesets registration design, like fixed top or fixed left and add flash buttons with movies is it possible?
Sabby76  



Hi Sabby,

I've taken a look at Apple's site and I too cannot find any framesets. You must be talking about something else, not what we understand about framesets!

Anyway, that on one side, it is possible to place anything and everything within a pixel breadth on a website page with CSS. What a pity this conversation didn't materialise a couple of weeks back. I could have recommended that you visit Sitepoint.com and join their css presentation for a very worthy and cheap price, to learn css. I'm sure they'll run other such tutorials (video and text) in the near future.

Hope this helps,

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sunsabbath76401977Beta Tester

Hi Justin and Dave
Yesterday I bought Eric Meyers, CCS The Definative Guide and will check out any tutorials available online. Thank you for the tips, information and view point. The Sitepoint.com to me is an interesting combination of pre-run video tutorials, interactive online assignment forms and online video conferencing. To be honest it looks fantastic, if only it could prove to an employer I can get out of bed, must buy a webcam or should I write bedcam?
Sabby76

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