hi eric i went into my update user profile page to send to you and noticed the problem. the issue on the update record from data assist was i had set it to update the existing recordset password with encryption and not the password text field in the form.
sorry about that.
although can you help with sending the existing password from the database unencrypted? i did not really want to use the random password and wondred if possible to unencrypt the password from database and send?
many thanks again