thought I'd posted that I sorted it ( more by luck than skill)
I know my ISP need the senders details -f bit but I assumed that that was in place when the confirmation email was sent to the form filler. Apparently not because ticking the advanced box solved the problem.
As to the email content , once I ticked the box to create a file for the email the content was shown.
So probrem solved.
I'm on another issue now thats in another string