I recommended a WebAssist product to an acquaintance, but had advised him that he would be well-advised to not seek help on these forums.
He came by. Had a look at this thread I told him about. And he told me that in his view I had exercised wrong judgement and that I should come back and have another look.
I can understand that, but speak only to reduce the likelihood of this.
Since I had no knowledge to contribute, I have spent the last 18 months just quietly viewing when I had the time.[/QUOTE]
My knowledge will never be equal to your own. My knowledge may also currently be paltry, but I really have worked very hard indeed to bring myself up to the level of the excellent tools that I have bought ... and I am only interested in furthering that process. That is why I am trying to make my suggestions.
I also am influenced by the company philosophy.
A company that makes so many roadmaps and tutorials and freebies available is clearly one that cares about its customers and products, and I am simply trying to make suggestions to add to this. I do feel that there is one small thing further that could be added to the company philosophy that would make life easier for both it and its customers, and I apologise if I am not making this sufficiently clear, but it is not for want of effort.
But I think that what I am trying to say is spot-on with this company's philosophy.
I never "blamed" anyone for my lack. I am just trying to say that there might be an effective way to ease this given path, and I do believe that it is something in which you are also interested.
Obviously, I am not doing particularly well on that score.
It is a pity you have given up, but I can understand why.
I am absolutely not one of those people.
There are also lots of great books on PHP. I believe that WebAssist would do well to study the manner in which PHP is presented in such books. I have a reason for saying that.
That is an important point that the originator of this thread was making, and that I have seen many other people make.
[QUOTE=carlene;47580]And yes, I would pay $50 for a step-by-step book Classroom in a book style book on Data Assist or eCart or even PowerStore or better yet - how to get them to work together.[QUOTE]
I sincerely believe that a WebAssist would enhance its products and its stature by providing a set of tutorials on its web site, and centred upon its products, to achieve exactly this kind of purpose.
Here, Carlene and I begin to differ somewhat in outlook, because I don't think that documentation of WebAssist's products, PER SE and IN THEMSELVES is the central point at issue.
Videos of that nature are not in my view going to solve the essential problem that Carlene has articulated by saying "I would pay $50 for a step-by-step book ... [on] ... how to get them to work together.
I do agree with that.
In a nutsell, (sticking to PHP), WebAssist has two essential problems in selling its products. (A) Ignorance of how Dreamweaver works and what its capabilities are; (B) ignorance of PHP (ditto for other languages). A person gets best out of WebAssist products when people have good knowledge of both.
Let's stick to PHP. It is not difficult to have a WebAssist approved list of recommended PHP beginner to intermediate books. You can then direct people to those. What are beginning concepts? Arrays, variables, couple of loops. Let's look at FileAssist (where I first started all this). Let's give people a two page tutorial in using FileAssist to do something functional, and that also acquaints them with some core concepts in PHP. If you look at the first 60 pages or so of all those books, they are all trying to get the same ideas across.
The conclusion is ... that they are fundamental to how PHP operates ... and also to how WebAssist products actually work.
So ... how can we at WebAssist use our products to get those same ideas across?
Let's take FileAssist (because its coding is relatively sparse). There is an opportunity, right there, to get some core PHP concepts across. Arrays, handles, you name it. All there.
Or ... you already provide people with a free eCommerce database. So ... take DataAssist. Use that.
What core PHP (and MySQL) ideas can we get across using DataAssist? Just look ... how many of the fundamental PHP ideas one comes across in the first three or four chapters in any PHP book are being implemented simply in giving people a one or two page tutorial on inserting a record into a database, using DataAssist.
And ... you in fact learn how to incorporate DataAssist more effectively into your own workflow.
To return to something I said earlier ... WebAssist makes a toolkit. What WebAssist can now very easily do is spend a little of its energy showing to its users how its tools can in fact be used to enhance their working knowledge and experience. O'Reilly, for example, is charging something like $700 for a PHP learning school. I wasn't even tempted. I have learned as much from using WebAssist's products and studying its code as I think I would have learned on one of its courses.
WebAssist's products are distinctly educational. They force users to be so.
With one change of word, I completely agree with Carlene on this point ...
I think that elided word should be "education". I believe that when people realize how much they can actually LEARN, just by using these products in a structured and guided way, it will enhance your product base and clientele substantially.
I look forward to working through the upcoming WebAssist PHP tutorials. I plan on being the first.
Office Guy ... I again apologise for any offence I caused to you.