Thanks so much Ray. Now, just so I understand to process, the shipping isn't showing up on Cart page initially, because the shipping cannot be calculated until the customer enters the shipping address on the checkout page. I'm assuming that, since we're using PayPal Express, the only reason for the shipping form on the Checkout page is to calculate shipping. The customer then has to re-input their shipping info at the PayPal site. Is there any reason why I can't just cut the shipping form on the Checkout page down to the zip code - so shipping can be calculated without the customer having to input all the other information twice?