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Lee Firth
09-13-2009, 08:45 PM
It would be great if WA could develop an extension to produce dynamic lists similar to ADDT. As they have finished support / development of ADDT I don't really want to use it any more but this SB saves so much time that I'm finding it difficult not to.

Daryl
09-14-2009, 04:57 AM
I haven't used the ADDT tool that your talking about, but does this not do what you have suggested?

Dynamic Dropdowns (http://www.webassist.com/dreamweaver-extensions/dynamic-dropdowns/)

Lee Firth
09-14-2009, 05:44 AM
It's a lot more powerful than that. It is basically divided into two wizards, one generates the list page. From a recordset it will produce a list (see attached image) that is sortable while clicking on the headings, can be filtered, can page through the recordset by a user defined number per page, generates add /edit / delete buttons and the second wizard generates the details pages. It saves me hours of work.

Ray Borduin
09-14-2009, 08:24 AM
A recordset driven data grid. This is a relatively common request. Thank you for the suggestion.

dlovas275157
10-10-2009, 07:27 PM
Lee,

Have you had any luck finding a replacement extension for ADDT Dynamic Lists/Forms? I am looking for the same thing, and was hoping DataAssist could accomplish, but can't tell how close it will get.

Ray,

Does WebAssist have any plans to incorporate the features from ADDT's Dynamic Lists/Forms into DataAssist? I really hope you guys take a close look at what ADDT's Dynamic List/Forms did. It was THE BEST extension to build "searchable/sortable lists" and "forms to add/edit/delete multiple records".

Thanks

Lee Firth
10-11-2009, 03:38 AM
No, there isn't anything that WebAssist can offer in a complete package that ADDT Dynamic lists can provide. You can do some of it with some of the extensions but not all. I'm in the process of documenting what is required myself because going forward I will not use ADDT.

dlovas275157
10-11-2009, 09:00 AM
Thanks for the reply. I guess we're in the same shoes. Hopefully WebAssist will listen and add the ability to "reorder" records in a dynamic list view.

If I find further solutions, I will post it here. Thanks for reading.

Ray Borduin
10-13-2009, 07:41 AM
We appreciate the feedback. An AJAX data grid extension has been a very popular request since the announcement of the discontinuation of ADDT, so it is very likely that we will add that to the list of projects we are working on.

dlovas275157
10-14-2009, 04:59 AM
Thanks Ray. Glad you guys are listening.

Another feature of ADDT's data grid I will miss, is the ability to "reorder" records in a table using "up/down" arrows and then click "save" at the top of the order column. To implement this feature you had to have a unique int database column called something like "sortOrder".

You've probably heard this request too.

Thnx again. DL

Ray Borduin
10-14-2009, 07:26 AM
Thank you again. Any feature requests that are important to you are worth mentioning.

fernando.delgado261578
10-15-2009, 01:05 PM
Hi Ray,

I have stopped today using ADDT since it was discontinued. I'm moving to WA.

I'm really happy to hear from you that WA will do some kind of ajax datagrid similar to InterAkt NeXTensio lists. NeXTensio was the most important and popular extension from InterAkt, I would really pay hundreds for something similar.

By the way, the the last Kollection 4 Beta demo was supposed to be using ajax.

Amazing,
thanks!

tom113673
11-24-2009, 01:26 PM
I would be surprised if this hasn't been mentioned (but I can't find any reference to it), but a hugely time-saving feature when creating Interakt/ADDT dynamic lists is 'Interface Persistence'.

ADDT lists are 're-entrant' (unlike DataAssist) if that's the term, but sometimes it is just as quick to start from scratch, because all the settings (display names, field types, field selection etc.) are saved. With DA it's more likely you will want to start from scratch (the only alternative is to edit manually) but if you do, you are _really_ starting from scratch, repeating all the steps and selections you have already made. With ADDT, recreating a pair of master-detail files, including all the extra features (sorting, validation etc.), can take a few seconds. The process is incomparably quicker with ADDT. Having said that, there are aspects of DataAssist I prefer and I am sure the WA developers can come up with something very good. It's a pity few people saw the Kollection 4 preview - that raised the possibilities to quite another level but I would be happy to have something close to version 3.

I haven't used DataAssist much. If there are some basic features I've overlooked in relation to the above, I would be grateful for any tips.

Tom

Ray Borduin
11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
We appreciate the feedback. This project is on our schedule and should be available, barring any unforseen delays, sometime in the first half of next year.

Lee Firth
11-24-2009, 03:56 PM
That's great news, I will look forward to seeing how WebAssist implement this feature.

tom113673
11-25-2009, 12:31 AM
That's good news. If you need any beta testers (eg ex-Interakt customers), I would be happy to help. It might be useful to get input on the new version before the beta stage. I expect there are features which might be relatively easy to implement if planned early but too late to include by the beta stage.

Having just started to try DataAsssist there are other small details which I used to take for granted and was surprised to have to spend time 'fixing'. Going through each link to make sure the querystring is passed between pages is not only a chore but error prone. As far as a user would be concerned, returning to the beginning of a list each time you switch to a detail view etc. is a bug.

I know there have been questions about this; perhaps it's been raised as a feature request. It's just one of those features which is a fundamental requirement as far as functionality is concerned and is therefore an obvious omission in a product which aims to produce a CRUD application quickly.

Tom

dlovas275157
01-11-2010, 07:02 AM
I'd be interested in being a beta tester as well, if you guys need any.